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Obama Rant and My Reply Print
Friday, 07 March 2008

I thought that I would share this with all of my friends. A nice young lady in England posted her comments to some of the Obama garbage floating around. Well, if you know me you know that I can not let an opportunity to rant myself pass by :) Anyway, she made some very valid points and I agree that there is too much stupidity around.

I know this is a little long but I think it is well worth the read because it gives you some valuable information and insight into other peoples views.  My comments are after all of the others of course... look for the red dashes and my name.  You know it when you see it.


----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Hooah Girl
Date: Mar 6, 2008 9:00 AM




If you plan to vote...this is something you should know.
The Bible has warned us that 'A man will come from the East that will be charismatic in nature and have proposed solutions for all our problems and his rhetoric will attract many supporters!'

When will our pathetic Nation quit turning their back on God and understand that this man is 'A Muslim'....First, Last and always....and we are AT WAR with the Muslim Nation, whether our bleeding-heart, secular, Liberal friends believe it or not. This man fits every description from the Bible of the 'Anti-Christ'!

I'm just glad to know that there are others that are frightened by this man!


Who is Barack Obama?

Very interesting and something that should be considered in your choice.

If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all your contacts...this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us here in our own United States...better heed this and pray about it and share it.

snopes. com ..' confirms this is factual. Check for yourself.

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita , Kansas.

Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii.

When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.

When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.'

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that that he is not a radical.

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's
education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches. Do you want someone like this as your PRESIDENT?

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!

Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country?...... NOT ME

 ----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Valentina - Callsign: ~Stilleto~
Date: Mar 6, 2008 1:24 PM


So someone posted this and what disturbe me more is that they haven't a f***ing clue... The below is absolute bollocks written by a militant Chritsian, who has no idea what we are "at war" with. We are NOT and NEVER have been at war with "The Muslim Nation". We are at a war against terror and militant fanatics who have twisted the beliefs of Islam, a religion whos very name means Peace, to corrupt the minds of the impressionable and the weak, in order to pursue their own insane political ideas... There are some very narrow minded people in our "western world" and our "Christian Nation" who are alos very corruptable and susceptible to our own version of these fanatics... the militant Christian. Just like the christans do not like other views forced on them, nor do the muslims. When willl the americans wake up and see people for what they are as an idividual and not because of their religions. I'm a Catholic, but jesus (excuse the pun) some of you guys need to your open your eyes and stop looking too deeply in to things...you're all as bad as people reading and believeing their horoscopes word for word!!!!

 ----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: flyboy
Date: 07 Mar 2008, 06:04


Interesting. I profess to be a Christian, but I think this stuff is pretty crazy. I just hope that you don't think that all Christians behave this way. I am pretty open minded to other people and thier beliefs and I only hope that others will treat me the same. I hate when I see people like this giving all the rest of us a bad name, but they are the ones who seem to get all the attention. If Obama has good ideas and will help to make us a better country, great. What does it matter where he came from? Anyways, just wanted to let you know we are not all this way. God bless and fly safe!

 

----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Valentina - Callsign: ~Stilleto~
Date: Mar 7, 2008 4:15 AM


Barack Obama and my opinions of the monstrocities of opinion that people are flying around at the moment. Some of you have very little thinking power it would seem to believe most of this, or rather (believe may not be the correct word) agree with all thetotal and utter bollocks people are putting out there at the moment. Please scroll fairly far down to read the first sladerous and malicious attack on obama (which to point out, I am not biased to anyone in the states re: presidential elections because at the moment I have no say in it and its not my country, even though it will affect me) which, regardelss of what his job is, is a horribly racist attack, using an individual to disguise it (they did a poor job mind) from it being against an attack to a whole culture and race and creed. Please read on.



Hey there, I didn't mean to say you were all like this, just to point out that theres someone as crazy as who they're writing about (in their opinion). The only difference between the writer of the article and fnatics of Islam is the religion they are following! In fact in some ways the militant Christians are the biggest problem, as if it wasn't for them and some of their highly racist views (as in here they keep pointing out he is "black") and the gross way some of them lead their lives, the guys in the East probably wouldn't be so bloody het up in the first place... They also are forgetting, that it is more than likely that Jesus was black, and that Muslims also believe in Jesus, and a god, probably the same one as us as Christians do. I just find it highly embarassing that people who class themselves under the same beliefs as me can think like this. And in my opinion they are not Christians... god said, love one another as I have loved you. Well, these guys aren't doing that are they, and to deliberately go out to brain wash people and stir up trouble, and TRY to make the weaker people in our society follow their twisted beliefs, aint far from bullying or exactly the same thing the extremists do. Its a form of terror on tehir own people, using guilt. And terror on muslims as its an attack at muslims, which may I add is done using fals and incorrect information. WE ARE NOT AND NEVER HAVE BEEN AT WAR WITH "THE" MUSLIM NATION.
"We are at a war against terror and militant fanatics who have twisted the beliefs of Islam, a religion whos very name means Peace, to corrupt the minds of the impressionable and the weak, in order to pursue their own insane political ideas..."

Anyways, Rant over!!!

Val

PS flying is good still! :)
 

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Tommy to Valentina


Nice Rant.. and I have to agree with you on many points. The thing is, with all of the misinformation out there it is easy to miss the truth.

The truth and facts are that he is part white and part black... which has NOTHING to do with anything.

The fact is that he was born and raised as a Muslim. Both his father and step-father were Muslims. He did attend a Christian School for a couple of years. He did attend a state Muslim school but the "Wahabism" part I have not seen evidence of so far... OK, he claims not to be Muslim, so can you take it at his word?

The fact is that he joined a "Christian" church in Chicago about the time he started to run for office... SPECULATION is that this was because it is more politically favorable to be a Christian in America if you run for office. Researching this church you will find it to be a radical racist group that denounces America and uplifts Africa over their own country.

The fact is that he refuses to wear the American Flag lapel pin that our other Congressmen wear at the capital. Political statement? You decide

The fact is that many have witnessed his refusal to salute the flag. The picture floating around the Internet was taken on Sep. 16,2007 and published by Time Magazine. There is a video from ABC which clearly shows that he did not salute at all but the others did so this picture was not taken out of context. His "camp" claims that sometimes he does and sometimes he does not. The thing about that is that in most American's opinions, that would be viewed as disrespectful to our country and the brave men and women who have died founding and protecting this great land. (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp)

now to your statements

Some of you have very little thinking power it would seem to believe most of this, or rather (believe may not be the correct word) agree with all thetotal and utter bollocks people are putting out there at the moment.< ... Not much argument there. There are so many idiots around the world that are so gullible that they will believe anything. Very few people actually take the time to do their own research (as I do) and find the truth. If more people on all sides of any subject would take the time to research their point, the world would have a lot less stupid spam and misinformation floating around!

In fact in some ways the militant Christians are the biggest problem, as if it wasn't for them and some of their highly racist views (as in here they keep pointing out he is "black") and the gross way some of them lead their lives, the guys in the East probably wouldn't be so bloody het up in the first place ... Any radical militant group tends to be out there and be a problem. Anything can be twisted into something evil... even if it started out as good. The problem I have with this statement is your assumption that the "guys in the East" are they way they are because of militant Christians. The fact is that their belief can be followed all of the way back to Ishmael in the bible. You are a Christian so I will assume you know the story. As such, you know there will be no peace between the descendants of Ishmael and Isaac. As the Jewish faith is the start of the Christian Faith, they will always have a problem with us also.

They also are forgetting, that it is more than likely that Jesus was black ... this is wrong also. Jesus was Jewish from the House of David. He was the son of a carpenter and as such would have grown strong using his hands to help his earthly father with his work. Jesus was also a normal, average looking Jew of the time. He would not have had long hair or anything else out of the norm. He blended in as accounted many times in the bible. Therefore, you can see that he would have been a person of Jewish decent with dark skin like every other Jew of the time. His skin would have been dark like the Arabs and not Black like most Africans.

Well, these guys aren't doing that are they, and to deliberately go out to brain wash people and stir up trouble, and TRY to make the weaker people in our society follow their twisted beliefs, ... The thing here is that if you do in depth research, you will find that your argument would be better applied to the Liberals in America... of which Obama is one of the biggest.

WE ARE NOT AND NEVER HAVE BEEN AT WAR WITH "THE" MUSLIM NATION. ... true however, Extremist have taken over a majority of this religion. This religion has radical believes that if followed would require the loss of freedom around the world. This religion is setting up strong holds in my country and yours and others around the world and they are slowly working its way into society to take over. Your own country has now started to debate adding Sharia law into its own laws. Look at the comments made by The Archbishop of Canterbury in February 2008. There are parts of England that are controlled by Muslims and even your police are reluctant to go there. The Muslims there want to live solely by Sharia Law and feel they should be immune to British Law. This same thing is starting to show up here under our freedom of religion. Fathers in America and Canada have killed their teenage children over stupid little things and are claiming that "their" law gives them the right to do so, and we should have no jurisdiction over them at all. Well, my friend, that is murder and against the Law of the Land. We may not be at "WAR" with the Muslim Nation but a majority of them are at war with the rest of the world. If the threat of this radical religion is ignored, you will eventually loose the freedoms that you enjoy so much today.

Islam, a religion whos very name means Peace>...Not actually true. The definiation is as follows....

[Arabic 'islm, submission, from 'aslama, to surrender, resign oneself, from Syriac 'alem, to make peace, surrender, derived stem of lem, to be complete; see lm in Semitic roots.]

The true meaning of Islam is to submit or surrender. Submit or Surrender to Allah and confess that Muhammad is his prophet. You see "to make peace" there, but history shows that their idea of Peace is that everyone follows/submits/surrenders to their beliefs and bows down to their version of God and Muhammad. If not, then you die... then there is peace. Peace by death and extermination of other religions. The radical extremist of Islam are trying to make that happen. The moderates of Islam say nothing against them... partially due to fear... and mostly likely due to their agreement with the cause.


In the Koran (Sura 3:79) is says, "When you encounter the infidels, strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and the rest make fast in fetters [chains]." Here you see that the Koran teaches that if you do not convert to Islam, then you are an infidel and are to be put to death. If Muslims are to follow their "holy book," then they are to put the rest of us to death.

It seems to be your belief and many others that Islam has been hijacked as of late and turned into what we see today. The truth is that as far back as the 1700's we can find American Records showing the atrocities committed by the Muslim radicals of the day. These Muslims of the 1700 were terrorizing the Mediterranean. They were killing men and taking young women to be sold as wives and concubines. In 1784, Thomas Jefferson studied Islam and found it to be a dangerous religion and dispatched the U.S.S. Constellation and six other war ships to the Mediterranean Sea to help end the Muslim threat of the day. This was actually America's FIRST war on terror.

History is filled with horrors inflicted upon the world by this religious group. People fail to research and/or learn from the past and it continues to be reborn again and again until the day they finally get their way... which is to rule the world again with one religion... theirs. Then they will have the peace you mentioned earlier.

There is SO much more I could put here. Muhammad alone could take a book to write about. You would not believe where he came from and what he was or even how he founded Islam. Maybe I'll write about it one day.


I truly enjoy reading your comments. I hope you do mine as well. This was not meant as an attack on your or anything. I too am tired of misinformation. The stuff I have put here has been researched and true. It is truth with out spin. I pray daily for your country and mine. Both need to wake up and see what is going on. France is in real trouble with these guys already... how far behind are we? Obama is a dangerous person for America. Not because he is black, not because he "may" be Muslim, but because his political views are so twisted. If he gets his way, America will end up being a Communist Country without knowing it. His views are most definitely in line with Communism and his radical "racial" beliefs will only further the division among races, religions, and others.

Thanks for reading. Take care and fly safe!

Tommy






 
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